Comments on: Let’s play the analogy game http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/ Watch. Discuss. Share. Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: admin http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-8 admin Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:35:48 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-8 I've tried clicksor before ... and I can tell you .. it not worth it ... the pay rate is so low that I think you make more money standing at the corner and ask people for changes ... lol ... the only thing I like about it is that they pay quickly ... and on time ...I just log in again and look like that the minimum payout had been raised from $20 to $50 ... for clicksor time .. that like 2 months ....ayyyy ... i don't think adbrite is that much better though ... let me know how it goes ... yeah ... I do think the blog will work better because of more word density ... so the rotation of words and the related ads will be much better too ... but if you use primary just vietnamese on the blogs ... it still won't be that much better since at the moment google engine can't correctly work with vietnamese yet ... they probably show stuffs in chinese or something though ... google has too many retrictions ... i can't really try anything too crazy because they might ban my account ... i want to give yahoo a try though .. but keep getting rejected because the site is not big enough yet ... I’ve tried clicksor before … and I can tell you .. it not worth it … the pay rate is so low that I think you make more money standing at the corner and ask people for changes … lol … the only thing I like about it is that they pay quickly … and on time …I just log in again and look like that the minimum payout had been raised from $20 to $50 … for clicksor time .. that like 2 months ….ayyyy …

i don’t think adbrite is that much better though … let me know how it goes …

yeah … I do think the blog will work better because of more word density … so the rotation of words and the related ads will be much better too … but if you use primary just vietnamese on the blogs … it still won’t be that much better since at the moment google engine can’t correctly work with vietnamese yet … they probably show stuffs in chinese or something though …

google has too many retrictions … i can’t really try anything too crazy because they might ban my account … i want to give yahoo a try though .. but keep getting rejected because the site is not big enough yet …

]]> By: Timothy Tran http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Timothy Tran Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:13:50 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-7 I used iframe to load up the adsense, on american movies we still get the same ad as any other movies because of the keyword I put inside the code. If you look at our header and our footer you will see that the Vietnamese keyword dominate so it trick google to place Vietnamese adsense on those content pages. Another network that might be interesting, we're currently testing it right now is adbrite.com. They tend to generate ad that are not too specific to Vietnamese, which we need :), and also they are not as strict as google. However their click through rate will not be as good as google since their inventory do not have that many Vietnamese related link. I'm trying to search for CPM (cost per impression) campaign right now since our site have consistent increasing of traffic. I ran across a network called Clicksor that allow CPM, just sign up so I'm about to test it out. I'll let you know how it turn out. Google adsense still offer the best money right now for us and I believe it will continue to be like this in the future. They do have more regulation, we have to take out some of their ad placement out so we wouldn't be against their regulation. In those places we'll will place adbrite.com link there to generate extra revenue, and maybe try to place one or two CPM banner to see how that turn out. I believe that once we launch the blog, the adsense will work better since it will have more content to pull ad from and those ad will cost more. Vietnamese ads profit/click: $.05 - $.10 Other ads: $.15 - $.50 See what I mean :). I used iframe to load up the adsense, on american movies we still get the same ad as any other movies because of the keyword I put inside the code. If you look at our header and our footer you will see that the Vietnamese keyword dominate so it trick google to place Vietnamese adsense on those content pages.

Another network that might be interesting, we’re currently testing it right now is adbrite.com.
They tend to generate ad that are not too specific to Vietnamese, which we need ) , and also they are not as strict as google. However their click through rate will not be as good as google since their inventory do not have that many Vietnamese related link.

I’m trying to search for CPM (cost per impression) campaign right now since our site have consistent increasing of traffic. I ran across a network called Clicksor that allow CPM, just sign up so I’m about to test it out. I’ll let you know how it turn out.

Google adsense still offer the best money right now for us and I believe it will continue to be like this in the future. They do have more regulation, we have to take out some of their ad placement out so we wouldn’t be against their regulation. In those places we’ll will place adbrite.com link there to generate extra revenue, and maybe try to place one or two CPM banner to see how that turn out.

I believe that once we launch the blog, the adsense will work better since it will have more content to pull ad from and those ad will cost more.

Vietnamese ads profit/click: $.05 – $.10
Other ads: $.15 – $.50

See what I mean ) .

]]> By: admin http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-6 admin Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:46:47 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-6 pretty much ... i built it bit by bit ... there some more functions i wanted to add, but afraid the layout will be clutter ... so i'm putting them off for awhile ... :) ...i've been working on it in my spare time since oct. i think it depends ... but look like your site already have too many functions ... unless you use modular design, i think it does require quite a bit of work yup .. both of those sites use the same design ... what site lists the top 100 viet sites? how are they ranked? i haven't seen any reliable ranking system yet ... so i don't know accurate they are ... as for 4phim, i think i saw that layout somewhere else before ...just can't recall where ... also, it seems that they have quite a few bugs not fixed yet ... for instead ... embedded player doesn't work right with ff ... while some movies directly link to google, youtube ..etc ... other than the frontpage .. i don't see anything special ... even the ad banners look kinda childish ... thanks .. and same to you ... on another note ... are you having any problem using adsense on pages with american movies? i thought they would ban you for that ... :/ ... have you find any ad network that is worthwhile? you seem to be using lots of them at once ... pretty much … i built it bit by bit … there some more functions i wanted to add, but afraid the layout will be clutter … so i’m putting them off for awhile … ) …i’ve been working on it in my spare time since oct.

i think it depends … but look like your site already have too many functions … unless you use modular design, i think it does require quite a bit of work

yup .. both of those sites use the same design … what site lists the top 100 viet sites? how are they ranked? i haven’t seen any reliable ranking system yet … so i don’t know accurate they are …

as for 4phim, i think i saw that layout somewhere else before …just can’t recall where … also, it seems that they have quite a few bugs not fixed yet … for instead … embedded player doesn’t work right with ff … while some movies directly link to google, youtube ..etc … other than the frontpage .. i don’t see anything special … even the ad banners look kinda childish …

thanks .. and same to you …

on another note … are you having any problem using adsense on pages with american movies? i thought they would ban you for that … :/ … have you find any ad network that is worthwhile? you seem to be using lots of them at once …

]]> By: Timothy Tran http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Timothy Tran Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:17:24 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-5 Thank for the advice on keeping the interface clean. You're right this is crucial to our success. So tell me, you design this site all by yourself :) Months? The tagging system, I think is a great idea, like a tag clouds that some of the website has. I might have to look into that in the future though, hopefully not too much recoding :) Apart from Noiket.com, have you run into any other site worth noticing lately. I come across a site called phimtogo.com which do movie sharing like us. From further research, I find out that they are from the same creator as that of caveviet.com one of top 100 Vietnamese webiste (adult only though) There's another interesting site you might want to check out is 4phim.com which has pretty nice layout too. Well, I wish you the best luck and hope to see you on the chart of Vietnamese best website one day. Thank for the advice on keeping the interface clean. You’re right this is crucial to our success. So tell me, you design this site all by yourself ) Months?

The tagging system, I think is a great idea, like a tag clouds that some of the website has. I might have to look into that in the future though, hopefully not too much recoding )

Apart from Noiket.com, have you run into any other site worth noticing lately.

I come across a site called phimtogo.com which do movie sharing like us. From further research, I find out that they are from the same creator as that of caveviet.com one of top 100 Vietnamese webiste (adult only though)

There’s another interesting site you might want to check out is 4phim.com which has pretty nice layout too.

Well, I wish you the best luck and hope to see you on the chart of Vietnamese best website one day.

]]> By: admin http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-4 admin Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:47:57 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-4 My apology about using a clone script. The interface looks like some of the ones I've seem so I thought it might be one. Kudos on trying to build the site from the ground up. I know how time consuming it is. TV online is also on my list of future projects. It's only logical right? You seem to have a few bugs still needed to work out though. Can't wait to see the final version. As for the blogs, they look very promising. Are you pulling the info automatically or manually type in? As for locating the videos, I still haven't decided on how to implement it yet. Categorize them isn't quite that easy because of how many genre a video can have. I was thinking of implementing a complete tagging system for them, but that would require modifications to the db and more coding, and that I don't have time for at the moment. But in the mean time, you can still using the directory listing and the search function to locate the video you want. Your site has quite a bit of features that I wanted to implement myself, if I ever find the time. I know you want to add more features, but try to keep the interface clean as much as possible. Your layout is very good, but it can be easily ruin by all the things you stuff into it. Anyway, thanks for visiting and for the compliments. <font color="#0000ff"><strong>UPDATE: 2/27/2007</strong></font>: It look like noiket is actually using "dzoic handshakes" scripts with some mods and not actually built from the ground up. Shame, shame on you for lying. :) My apology about using a clone script. The interface looks like some of the ones I’ve seem so I thought it might be one.

Kudos on trying to build the site from the ground up. I know how time consuming it is. TV online is also on my list of future projects. It’s only logical right? You seem to have a few bugs still needed to work out though. Can’t wait to see the final version. As for the blogs, they look very promising. Are you pulling the info automatically or manually type in?

As for locating the videos, I still haven’t decided on how to implement it yet. Categorize them isn’t quite that easy because of how many genre a video can have. I was thinking of implementing a complete tagging system for them, but that would require modifications to the db and more coding, and that I don’t have time for at the moment. But in the mean time, you can still using the directory listing and the search function to locate the video you want.

Your site has quite a bit of features that I wanted to implement myself, if I ever find the time. I know you want to add more features, but try to keep the interface clean as much as possible. Your layout is very good, but it can be easily ruin by all the things you stuff into it. Anyway, thanks for visiting and for the compliments.

UPDATE: 2/27/2007: It look like noiket is actually using “dzoic handshakes” scripts with some mods and not actually built from the ground up. Shame, shame on you for lying. )

]]> By: Timothy Tran http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Timothy Tran Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:41:51 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-3 One more thing, after surfing through onlinephim.net. As the creator of noiket.com, I'm really impressed. I like your presentation and clean design with AJAX technology. I believe that this website will do pretty well, keep up the good work. Just one ideas, you might need to think about category because when more contents is added, it will be hard to find movies, but other than that I think your site rock man! One more thing, after surfing through onlinephim.net.
As the creator of noiket.com, I’m really impressed.
I like your presentation and clean design with AJAX technology.
I believe that this website will do pretty well, keep up the good work.

Just one ideas, you might need to think about category because when more contents is added, it will be hard to find movies, but other than that I think your site rock man!

]]> By: Timothy Tran http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Timothy Tran Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:27:20 +0000 http://blog.onlinephim.net/2007/02/06/lets-play-the-analogy-game/#comment-2 Thank for your comment on noiket.com, we're working hard as I speak to reorganize our contents because of the massive amount of movies that we have now. I like your straight forward opinion on how we are getting crowded. Our website is not based on a youtube clone scripts, and the youtube symbol on the frontpage is just a random music video we pull from our database of external music video scripts. Our scripts is mostly build from ground up, so flexibility is not an issue, we're about to launch 2 new features this week (TV Online, and Blogs) that integrated directly with our current system, no third party stuffs. Thank for your comment on noiket.com, we’re working hard as I speak to reorganize our contents because of the massive amount of movies that we have now. I like your straight forward opinion on how we are getting crowded.

Our website is not based on a youtube clone scripts, and the youtube symbol on the frontpage is just a random music video we pull from our database of external music video scripts.

Our scripts is mostly build from ground up, so flexibility is not an issue, we’re about to launch 2 new features this week (TV Online, and Blogs) that integrated directly with our current system, no third party stuffs.

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